@mate_mtys @NunayaBizniz @GoodwinMJ @giles_fraser @unherd So perhaps we need to be thinking how to revitalise liberalism as a philosophical rather than a political framework and one that encourages community utility maximisation through the use of superordinate goals such as creating a sustainable, sufficient and resilient future for...Steve Gwynne @ThePeoplesAlte1 • 28 Jan 12:47 GMT
@mate_mtys @NunayaBizniz @GoodwinMJ @giles_fraser @unherd Perhaps the answer lies in a form of communitarian liberalism that utilises philosophical liberalism or a liberal communitarianism that gives equal recognition to diverse groups.Steve Gwynne @ThePeoplesAlte1 • 28 Jan 12:43 GMT
@mate_mtys @NunayaBizniz @GoodwinMJ @giles_fraser @unherd In this context, identitarian liberalism and the individual utility maximisation it promotes is in large parts wasteful hedonism which imo should be restricted to the private sphere so that publicly derived resources are not used to support individual utility maximisation...Steve Gwynne @ThePeoplesAlte1 • 28 Jan 11:39 GMT
@mate_mtys @NunayaBizniz @GoodwinMJ @giles_fraser @unherd The danger therefore, as highlighted in this article, is that identitarian politics tends to turn social issues centred around resource scarcity into ideologically driven social politics which tends to fragment rather than integrate the demos.Steve Gwynne @ThePeoplesAlte1 • 28 Jan 11:09 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Lara Dean @treeleaves8 • 28 Jan 00:07 GMT
RT @GoodwinMJ: "What is commonly called populism is in large measure a reaction against an attempt to impose a liberal identity on people w…Giles Fraser @giles_fraser • 27 Jan 21:56 GMT
My opinion is that @Cmi_ceo has redefined the notion of being barking mad. It is incompresible how anyone so out of touch could have the letters OBE after their name. @cmi_managers @giles_fraser https://t.co/hhgKWPLB8nPatrick Couderc @PatrickCouderc • 27 Jan 18:18 GMT
RT @unherd: "There is an inherent instability in the liberal project that promotes the freedom to shape your own identity as you please" |…Giles Fraser @giles_fraser • 27 Jan 07:58 GMT
@gtfomfyd @BrianWi62063896 @giles_fraser @JMPSimor I'm muting you. You look like a useless troll but, even if you're not, I'm fed up wasting my time trying to convince people like you that black isn't white.
What's the point? What's coming is coming and it won't be pretty. https://t.co/zd03CbmpbY
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Tim Fowler @timfowler7_tim • 26 Jan 18:00 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Christine Freeman @Christi53994860 • 26 Jan 17:21 GMT
@SteveMortlock @iainstu @giles_fraser Hide away? No, I'm off to the USA and Europe again this year. There are also a lot of non-British people on this 'little island' who you can talk to. Enjoy the options.Michael Stables @RMStables • 26 Jan 14:32 GMT
@TahaNasser_ @wharfgirl @giles_fraser ... 3/ parallels to Stoic philosophy in this statement are too obvious to ignore. It is easily conceivable that JC knew about the tenets of the Stoics as their thought abounded in 1st century Judea. And the idea itself is sufficiently provocative in the context of... 4/Mark Hebwood @MHebwood • 26 Jan 14:24 GMT
@wharfgirl @TahaNasser_ @giles_fraser It is very far away from that argument . Indeed I didn't even know u were talking about this... Still don't know how to read twitter threads... . Just meant to share an observation about the GR - it is possible JC may not have liked it at all.Mark Hebwood @MHebwood • 26 Jan 14:07 GMT
@picard9991 @giles_fraser When someone hiding his/hers /it's identity decides to confirm my point! 🤣🤣 We continue to Pay, Follow EU law but no longer able to have a say until the end of the transition period. FACTS.Sandra Pascoal - Lima @SPascoalLima • 26 Jan 13:36 GMT
@Fixiefreaky @WAjhanlaurence @Manupurself @gtfomfyd @giles_fraser @JMPSimor I would have done, without a doubt. I'm a man of principle. For example, when I discover I'm wrong about something on twitter, I always acknowledge it (that's a rule of mine). never met a leaver who does the same.Richard Bentall #FBPE Climate terrorist & Rejoiner @RichardBentall • 26 Jan 12:46 GMT
@craig_walmsley @JTasioulas @giles_fraser @FT @DiEM_25 @yanisvaroufakis @paulmasonnews Not a case of UK giving Greece money. IMF went along with EU and was heavily criticised in an internal report. EU occupy every ministry in Greece. Greeks were betrayed by Tsipras. #EU #Greece #AthensKeith Parkins @keithpp • 26 Jan 12:13 GMT
@JMPSimor @giles_fraser One of the terrible things about social media is that so many people use it to be abusive, deliberately insultingly, or hurtful.
When I see tweets like your's Jessica, I understand that temptation. I shall, however, unlike you, resist it
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Grace Robertson @GraceRo95193774 • 26 Jan 11:20 GMT
@nugattack77 @R3M386 @sandehalynch @JMPSimor @giles_fraser With the EU as well as full tariff free with no paperwork access to the biggest trading zone in the world which in on our doorstep - we have access to a further 70 preferential agreements.
After Canada there is South America and Japan.
@craigieferguson @iainstu @giles_fraser @JMPSimor The point the EU is it negotiates cumbersome trade deals as a compromise to try and suit the needs of 28 members and more tellingly for itself and not a best fit for each individual nation. You will understand in time once you have tried negotiating trade deals of your own. 🤦♂️J spennz @JonnieIlly • 26 Jan 08:43 GMT
@keithpp @JTasioulas @giles_fraser @FT @DiEM_25 @yanisvaroufakis @paulmasonnews Perhaps you’re right - but of course it wasn’t just the EU that agreed the bailouts - the IMF played a role and there have been a number of rounds of debt relief as well as bailouts.
And of course you’re right that the UK should have done more and gifted Greece some money.
@PlasFron @LovattMo @JMPSimor @giles_fraser Whats really sad is that she is just another part of the extreme right that she pretends to hate. I call it the new Alt Left. Hate filled, racist and a new breed of facist.will @will93871994 • 26 Jan 08:32 GMT
@wharfgirl @TahaNasser_ @giles_fraser The imperatives you mention (Golden Rule and decalogue) are both from the document Christians call the "Old" Testament. Also, if the gospels are an accurate reflection of what Jesus thought, we may have to conclude that he despised the Golden Rule.Mark Hebwood @MHebwood • 26 Jan 08:16 GMT
@peter449b @Nick_Boro1 @JMPSimor @giles_fraser What taxes are you complaining about. We are a sovereign state last time I looked at laws our country passed. Farage soundbites are not a form of reasoned factual debate.David Cremonesini @Dubai_allergy • 26 Jan 08:15 GMT
@JMPSimor @giles_fraser I voted to leave for the very reason that it WILL provide future generations with a better future, one where they will have full control of their destiny. The Euro will bring disaster to the EU we need to be as far apart from it before that happens.MSO @MSOLNEY • 26 Jan 08:10 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Foxy @Rickstar093 • 26 Jan 07:46 GMT
@Way_sider @giles_fraser Bore off u mean a load of middle class university graduates Doubt many working class youngsters every when they were to busy having the jobs stolen by cheap labour from Eastern EuropeJoey 12 @joe_walland • 26 Jan 07:34 GMT
@gtfomfyd @RichardBentall @giles_fraser @JMPSimor Exactly the same as you: nothing as there is nothing ordinary folks can do now. I shall carry on carrying on and hope that in four years I can retire.J R Hardy @architect58 • 26 Jan 07:13 GMT
@JMPSimor @giles_fraser They will endeavour to ensure no other member tries to leave.
Which is not what a club is supposed to be doing. Members of a club should be enjoying being in it, not forced to stay.
But be assured, we wont be the last.
@JMPSimor @giles_fraser Under international law, the EU is not a sovereign state so cannot issue passports. Fact you should know this as a QC
Freedoms and opportunities? 120+ countries have these.
And I know this will shock you we are not leaving Europe we are Leaving the EU.
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Penelope Stevens @BrexitPenny • 26 Jan 03:32 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Mark Godfrey @mark_the_god • 26 Jan 03:25 GMT
@Sillyshib @BelindadeLucy @JMPSimor @giles_fraser 17.4 million people voted to Leave. Do you not think the UK is fit to govern itself or make its own laws? The EU is undemocratic, Wishes to become a superstate with its own army. On the 31st we become a free, self governing nation. Be proud of the UK and what we can achieve.Lesley Mitchell @MeccanoJane • 26 Jan 02:49 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.#LetsGoWTO #BoycottEUProducts @BeeAHoney_ • 26 Jan 02:39 GMT
RT @giles_fraser: This is why some of us gave up decades of Labour commitment and voted Tory.Bill-i-am @wk0063 • 26 Jan 01:51 GMT