@anthonypainter The Tories indvertantly discovered thru 2 referendums (Scot/EU) how 2 split Labour's cross-values coalition and were then able to much more quickly assemble "Unionist" and "Brexit" coalitions in response to it. Labour's coalitions were more economic & thus we struggled 2 respondcharliemansell @charliemansell • 19 Jan 09:52 GMT
@Fl4shm4n37 @britainelects @OpiniumResearch Indeed. Both together illustrate how the Tories inadvertently discovered thru having 2 referendums how to split the Lab previously economically driven but cross-values coalition. There is no doubt that it will be v hard to put them both back in the coalitioncharliemansell @charliemansell • 19 Jan 09:38 GMT
RT @Indra68: This is very much needed—but, we also need to be able to cancel elections & referendums that have been corruptly won. Why the…Werfie 🏴🇪🇺🇾🇪 @Werfie1 • 19 Jan 01:01 GMT
@PJDunleavy @LSEpoliticsblog An interesting one for the future will be one on the Monarchy. There is some speculation in the press, but I think it is interesting to consider when referendums become more popular and why.Rocio Ferro-Adams BSc(Hons) Pol & Int Rel, MA, MA @RocioFerroAdams • 18 Jan 23:00 GMT
@Effiedeans What will it take for the #SNP to recognize that the #EU isn't what they think it is.... we have several member countries gearing up to hold referendums to get out following #brexit whilst the SNP is still droning on about its merits... 🙄 it sounding increasingly shrill 🥴Deal A Trip Orlando ️ Florida ⛱ Holiday Rentals😎 @dealatrip • 18 Jan 17:33 GMT
Denmark, France, Italy, the Netherlands, and Sweden all facing demands for referendums over Europe
In a statement, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said: "There is no point beating about the bush: today is a watershed for Europe
@DanBawn No, of course not. A constitutional referendum vote to change the status quo requires a greater majority than to leave things the same, a well understood principle that the government has now itself adopted in its bill on future referendums. Like much else, Cameron got this wrong https://t.co/YO5cJTeWInAdam Banks @adambanksdotcom • 18 Jan 09:47 GMT
@Birdybabe07 France, Poland, Hungary, the Netherlands and Italy are all concerning the EU as there are growing opposition parties offering referendums. If we get on with it and do trade deals the demands will get stronger when they don’t see the promised catastrophe.Paul 🇮🇱 @PaulLeMay16 • 18 Jan 07:22 GMT
@RexWoods11 @acgrayling Roughly about a 40% turnout in the Swiss referendums. Clearly 'direct democracy' is not as popular as you think.
We have a Parliamentary democracy, any changes to our constitution would have to be voted on.
No point in having govt by referenda if the media are govt controlled.
People weren't speaking for genuine democrats when they naively said we could both leave the EU - & STAY in the Single Market, @DanielJHannan.
And irresponsible people who call for validatory EU Referendums ALSO don't speak for Britain's democrats. https://t.co/XZymSvsIBJ
@Liam220262 12,000 homeless
And you still support Leo and his referendums?
@BBCPolitics No vision. No plan. No idea.
My positive approaches are reserved for legal activities, not corrupt referendums.
@allcalledmurphy @j47lfc @AnthonySteedman @CRobertsonUK @Feroxbill1 They dont play nice in referendums either eg manipulated all aspects of media to instill fear in Scots English politics is nothing to do with Scots so what gives them the right to interfere in ours ? when Scots making a decision on their future no input from WM, so it's fairCarol Stuart Kalkowski @Carol70646611 • 17 Jan 14:58 GMT
@prohaggis Honestly feel so sorry for England! Getting forced into Brexit and having to ask to hold referendums. Oh wait....Kyle Matthews @Kyle_Matthews1 • 17 Jan 14:29 GMT
@andybrexiteer @MollyMEP @Jude_KD 2 Referendums are by definition twice as democratic as 1. The fact Brexiteers resisted this outcome at all costs suggested to me they feared losing it! You've got your Brexit now, & I hope it works for you & the rest of the country. So far see no evidence of healing the divide!Dr Charles Tannock @CharlesTannock • 17 Jan 08:18 GMT
RT @LenoreSimson: This is the Referendums Criteria Bill, designed to make Referendums more difficult, effectively attempting to silence the…𝓢𝓾𝔃𝓪𝓷𝓷𝓪𝓱 𝓟 𝓑𝓪𝓻𝓸𝓷 @Suzannah_Baron • 17 Jan 01:00 GMT
@flying_rodent No, don't think so either. Nats big fan of having stupid and belligerent referendums, which was also a problem with continuity remain.David Grant @David_AC_Grant • 16 Jan 23:34 GMT
No to second referendums. RESPECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Legit this is a good result lol https://t.co/GmmxplzOPrDanny Filer @DannyFiler • 16 Jan 20:30 GMT
@ChivasDivot 2014 Scottish ref where majority vote to remain in UK.
2016 ref where UK vote to leave the EU.
End of, no ifs or buts.
No more referendums for a generation...
@BenartyComputer @LibDems @willie_rennie @wendychambLD Oh come on, referendums are all the rage. Once you start you just can’t stop. Of course, a well-informed voter helps, too. But here we are. The people know best, at any given moment.Andy Stansfield @caratacos • 16 Jan 15:49 GMT
@TheJanHunter @jon_trickett That's a nice way to talk about over 17m people, I voted to stay in, but we cannot choose which elections and referendums we do not acept. By the way I looked at the figures on who voted to leave and noticed only London, Scotland and NI voted to remain. So the SE voted to remainG&P Martin @JaneCanan • 16 Jan 15:21 GMT
@DavidSibbald @AgentP22 What exactly do you expect? Imagine there was a referendum and it was Yes, with the next Scottish elections placing a pro union party in power, which then proceeded to force referendums on rejoining the union.... how would you feel about that?Rockape 🥋🥋🥋 @Beltfed762mm • 16 Jan 15:10 GMT
@lisanandy I take your point but the reaction to the 2014 and 2016 referendums was not conciliatory, it was "haha you lost, get over it". Now Johnson's "let's come together" is without substance or gesture.J S Chamberlain @JSChamberlain2 • 16 Jan 13:32 GMT
@youwon_getover @DavidLammy Yes I already made that in earlier tweet saying the French and Dutch rejected the Lisbon treaty in their referendums, you are giving me useless information now on things I have already coveredtim keegan @timmyvoe • 16 Jan 12:20 GMT
@piersmorgan Meghan & Harry must be absolutely delighted that this serial loser of referendums & elections is on their side of this argument!!!!Neil Conway @NeconTaxi • 16 Jan 12:15 GMT
@JosephRodger1 @EFAparty @Lorrain52090890 @NicolaSturgeon @theSNP @newssnp @Plaid_Cymru @AileenMcLeodSNP @YSINational @plaidifanc @Adamprice @Christia_Allard What would a referendum achieve. Even if it came back 75% yes 25% no...why should anyone in Scotland pay any attention to it, when the result of the last 2 referendums have been disregarded by the SNP. We need political rest on this subject and let families rebuild relationshipsStephen Beer @SpbStephen • 16 Jan 10:38 GMT
@Lorrain52090890 @Louisew64506438 @EFAparty @NicolaSturgeon @theSNP @newssnp @Plaid_Cymru @AileenMcLeodSNP @YSINational @plaidifanc @Adamprice @Christia_Allard The snp expect people to honour the result of any referenda they win. All other referendums are not respected. So why should anyone respect any future referendums?...Stephen Beer @SpbStephen • 16 Jan 09:54 GMT
@KillianCurran @IanDunt I believe it's Scotland's right to have a referendum, although currently it would be a concern how the country would manage independent from UK, as unlike N.Ireland it would not be automatically in the EU..I just think she's right, referendums are in general, a bad tool.Toria @SAP_260770 • 16 Jan 00:19 GMT
@TheGoonerAFC I still dont think Brexit or the real notion of the UK leaving the EU was even a massive thing in 2014, let alone specific to the Scots and their referendum. If anything it bolsters democracy in my mind - 2 referendums in 5 yrs isn't bad. How long is the democracy-approved gap?Timi @oga_timi • 15 Jan 23:18 GMT
@nickeardleybbc So a lifetime is 300 years then? We had to wait that long to get one. Referendums are like buses. You wait for ages and two come along at once.terry @terryindyref • 15 Jan 22:34 GMT
The Government knows a referendum result of 52/48 is stupid. Which is why they are trying to ensure all other referendums which might go against them will require a minimum of 60/40 to pass.
#Brexit #BrexitBritain #Democracy https://t.co/otwu1QAUQU
RT @Rob_Kimbell: Scotland did choose. It chose to stay in the UK...
...despite the fact that you lowered the voting age for referendums t…
@BBCPolitics They clearly haven’t had enough of referendums. You’ll just annoy them more by claiming they have, as a means of denying them.Oxted Man #FBPE 🕷 🖤#peoplesvote @panamadip • 15 Jan 20:51 GMT
No support for #indyref2 from Labour leadership contender Lisa Nandy
“I don’t support another referendum on independence... I think this country has had enough of referendums”
#andrewneilshow https://t.co/6CVoda3dIK https://t.co/6pYhswfHLj
RT @jonlis1: The Scottish people voted for an SNP government in 2016 and a majority of SNP MPs in 2015, 2017 and 2019. In referendums a far…the jaggy thistles @clarknat • 15 Jan 19:02 GMT
RT @Effiedeans: Does the SNP think every single EU member state is undemocratic because they don't allow their parts to have referendums on…Roberta M Wallace @robertamw • 15 Jan 17:14 GMT
Boris Johnson isn’t going to allow the Russia reports to be published until he “gets brexit done”. If the Russians interfered in our elections and referendums it allows people to question whether the results are actually legit - and perhaps may hold back his agendaLauren Perry @laurxn_ • 15 Jan 16:38 GMT
@magnusllewellin The Holyrood punch n Judy show is irrelevant on the matters of constitution and referendums.
She has no power on this issue. She is the leader of Holyrood not Scotland.
RT @jonlis1: The Scottish people voted for an SNP government in 2016 and a majority of SNP MPs in 2015, 2017 and 2019. In referendums a far…David Mogg #FBPE @Mogg63 • 15 Jan 14:39 GMT
@ferryhill9 @MrMalky I appreciate what you are saying but there are a couple of issues. A referendum on the constitutional arrangements of the UK without the consent of the UK legislature has no standing. As you identified, the chief exec of each local authority oversees referendums and elections.Malcolm Mitchell @RealMalcolmM • 15 Jan 14:15 GMT
@Eddie_of_the_UK @fionacuthbert @TheScotsman @BorisJohnson Patronising oaf, the SNP won a majority in Scotland with a promise of another referendum. Whats wrong with giving Scotland the choice? Don’t give us that old chestnut of “we’re tired of referendums” cause that’s just lazy..are you lazy??louise stewart @louises48162056 • 15 Jan 14:14 GMT
@PenIrvine @janis_henderson @Feorlean Didn’t know there was a set time or set numbers of referendums. I believe the smith commission agreed scotland could have further referendums in the future if they so wished. No one born in Scotland since 2000 has had the chance to vote on Scotlands future.James watt @wimjot • 15 Jan 13:01 GMT
@eddireader Fancy him adhering to a democratic decision... what gives him the right ? it’s the minority that should win the day by continual referendums until the right decision is made then all referendums stopped .. it seems the fairest wayDavid @David15808890 • 15 Jan 12:38 GMT
RT @jonlis1: The Scottish people voted for an SNP government in 2016 and a majority of SNP MPs in 2015, 2017 and 2019. In referendums a far…Rosie Maddra Stewart @rosiemaddra • 15 Jan 11:27 GMT
@GarvieLloyd @joannaccherry @NicolaSturgeon There is no way that another NO vote would resolve this issue as it is the only reason the SNP exist. They will continue to find reasons to keep running referendums as was clear in the letter the FM sent to the PM asking for the powers to be devolved to @scotgovOusier Boudreaux @LS3370 • 15 Jan 10:49 GMT
RT @Rob_Kimbell: Scotland did choose. It chose to stay in the UK...
...despite the fact that you lowered the voting age for referendums t…
Where do we stop regarding referendums?? if we vote to leave the UK and we're not happy with the deal in Europe do we vote to come back? The cost of these referendums run into millions. Unacceptable waste of resources.
@FreeValis @lewis_goodall Nope. In all elections, and referendums, in Scotland, the pro-independence cause has never won a majority of votes. You can't claim a large minority is a majority just because our voting systems give them the most seats.Cllr George Potter @georgewpotter • 15 Jan 09:15 GMT
@TomTugendhat I’d like to bring this matter to your attention- this surely should be investigated by select committee or even a full scale Commission on foreign interference in UK elections & referendums https://t.co/D6k7bchqGPNan Bovington #FBPE #remain. @wildhyperbole • 15 Jan 08:41 GMT
@DavidLammy Widders is a grand old dinosaur, and I don't agree with her on some things, but she was elected by the British people to represent them in the EU parliament.
Do you want to overturn elections as well as referendums Mr Lammy?
That's a dangerous path you are describing.
RT @cccammy1: Sturgeon and the SNP will have more to worry about in the next few months than referendums.
Referendums are just-barely democratic. If you are on the losing side, you will be told to be quiet 🤐 Far from settling an issue, they actually divide society further. No more referendums. https://t.co/UZjUODesNfDr Hefin David AS/AM 🏴 @hef4caerphilly • 15 Jan 07:39 GMT
This is unbelievable. 60% vote threshold for referendums. Two thirds commons majority to initiate a referendum, and 55% turnout from the public. https://t.co/Hi4k1o0owfOllieB @OllieB • 15 Jan 07:38 GMT
We need a Referendum Act to set a time limit before a question can be put again (& other ground rules). This would:
a) stop this nonsense
b) ensure referendums are treated seriously as they should. https://t.co/Z2dQIqxwZy
The entire IndyRef debate is just hypocrisy from all angles. Sturgeon suddenly wants democracy to be respected after ignoring the results of not one but two referendums. Johnston is holding her to her “once in a generation” promise, and rightly so, but is a stranger to the truth.Andy McKellar @AMcKellar89 • 15 Jan 07:25 GMT